Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: By the Numbers,

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Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: By the Numbers,
- bmeltzer

I would give Luke Richardson 22 and give Rick Tocchet 92 just to fit in more names. Coburn took over number 5 for me a while ago now. Today he is the longest running Flyer. Being big, strong and good at what he does, he fits the Flyers mold. I'm a little surprised Talbot and Hartnell seem more deserving of wearing a letter then Coburn. Gagne for me is number 12 because it's the time I grew up in. Colin Forbes was wearing 12 around the time I started watching the Flyers play. Number 6 to me is Chris Therrien because of longevity. I saw Giroux wear 56 in his first training camp. Something about first line centers to me who wear out of the ordinary numbers like 88, 97, 48 or 40 is appealing to me. I always thought to myself "What if Giroux kept wearing 56?"

I would give Luke Richardson 22 and give Rick Tocchet 92 just to fit in more names. Coburn took over number 5 for me a while ago now. Today he is the longest running Flyer. Being big, strong and good at what he does, he fits the Flyers mold. I'm a little surprised Talbot and Hartnell seem more deserving of wearing a letter then Coburn. Gagne for me is number 12 because it's the time I grew up in. Colin Forbes was wearing 12 around the time I started watching the Flyers play. Number 6 to me is Chris Therrien because of longevity.
- dingo8urbaby

Tocchet's best years as a Flyer, by far, were in his first stint where he we wore number 22. If I did give 92 to Tocchet, I think Mike Knuble would be my number 22 over Richardson.

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- SiloCity

18. Lindsay Carson > mike Richards

Thanks Bill - I enjoyed the video.

Just curious, do you know who the goalies were at that practice?

Mine would be:

1 Bernie Parent
2 Mark Howe
3 Tom Bladon
4 Barry Ashbee
5 Braydon Coburn
6 Andre "Moose" Dupont
7 Bill Barber
8 Dave "The Hammer" Schultz (made the Bullies what they were)
9 Pelle Eklund
10 John LeClair
11 Don Saleski
12 Tim Kerr
13 Dan Carcillo (best of a weak lot!)
14 Joe Watson
15 Rich Sutter
16 Bobby Clarke
17 Rod Brind'Amour
18 Mike Richards
19 Rick MacLeish
20 Dave Poulin
21 Dave Brown (Forsberg wasn't here long enough)
22 Rick Tocchet
23 Ilkka Sinisalo
24 Sami Kapanen
25 Keith Primeau
26 Brian Propp
27 Ron Hextall
28 Claude Giroux
29 Joel Otto
30 Bobby Taylor
31 Pelle Lindbergh
32 Murray Craven
33 Pete Peeters
34 John Vanbiesbrouck
35 Bob Froese
36 Dennis Seidenberg
37 Eric Desjardins
38 Frank Bathe
39 Marty Murray
40 Aris Brimanis (Vincent Lecavalier as of October!)
41 Andrej Meszaros
42 Josef Beranek
43 Martin Biron
44 Kimmo Timonen
45 Vaclav Prospal
46 Josh Gratton
47 Luca Sbisa
48 Danny Briere
49 Michael Leighton
50 Scott Sandelin
51 Randy Jones (briefly)
52 Todd Fedoruk (briefly)
53 Jason Bowen (briefly in 1993-94 preseason)
54 Brian Wesenberg
55 Chris Gratton
56 None
57 None
58 Bill Armstrong
59 None
60 None
61 Mike York
62 Jiri Latal (briefly in 1989-90 preseason)
63 None
64 None
65 Nate Guenin
66 Yanick Dupre (NHL debut game on Oct. 6, 1991)
67 None
68 Jaromir Jagr
69-76 None
77 Paul Coffey
78-86 None
87 Donald Brashear
88 Eric Lindros
89 Mike Comrie
90 None
91 None
92 None (I chose Rick Tocchet for #22)
93 Jakub Voracek
94-96 None
97 Jeremy Roenick
98 None
99 None (Retired leaguewide for Wayne Gretzky, but no player would have the nerve to try and wear it even if it wasn't)

1- Bernie Parent
2- Mark Howe
3- Dan McGillis
4- Barry Ashbee
5- Kevin Haller
6- Chris Therien
7- Bill Barber
8- Shawn Antoski
9- Pelle Eklund
10- John LeClair
11- Kevin (frank)in' Dineen
12- Tim Kerr
13- Dan Carcillo
14- Justin Williams
15- Mike Maneluk
16- Bobby Clarke
17- Rod Brind'Amour
18- Brent Fedyk
19- Mikael Renberg
20- Chris Pronger
21- Peter Forsberg
22- Mike Knuble
23- Peter Sobvoda
24- Karl Dkyhuis
25- Shjon Podien
26- Brian Propp
27- Ron Hextall
28- Claude Giroux
29- Joel Otto
30- Garth Snow
31- Pelle Lindbergh
32- Roman Checkmanek
33- Dominic Roussel
34- Jim Dowd
35- Wayne Stephenson
36- Darroll Powe
37- Eric Desjardins
38- Oliver Lauridsen
39- Marty Murrary
40- Vinny Prospal
41- Mez
42- Robert Esche
43- Andy Delmore
44- Kimmo Timonen
45- Arron Asham
46- Jon Kalinski
47- Eric Wellwood
48- Danny Briere
49- Michael Leighton
55- Ben Eager
77- Paul Coffey

As much as I like the buyout of briere there is something wrong seeing him in a habs jersey

Tocchet's best years as a Flyer, by far, were in his first stint where he we wore number 22. If I did give 92 to Tocchet, I think Mike Knuble would be my number 22 over Richardson.
- bmeltzer

Rick Tocchet is a Flyers legend, I'm just looking for ways to get more names on the list. For whatever reason, I forgot about Knuble and I'm more of a Richardson fan.

As much as I like the buyout of briere there is something wrong seeing him in a habs jersey
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

You know what looks even more wrong? Gervais in a Flyers jersey.

You know what looks even more wrong? Gervais in a Flyers jersey.
- JAKEw1234

True haha

I have a top five list. Not every player can bring it every night, so I ask ask are the top five best Flyers you've seen play live. Collect you thoughts and think of who impressed you everytime you saw them play live and in person.

1. Simon Gagne, seven times and he brought it everytime
2. Peter Forsberg, twice
3. Mike Richards, Seven, he was always a factor simply by determination
4. Chris Pronger, once
5. John LeClair, twice. Scored the first and lone goal at my very first game.

I've seen many Flyers greats but there was always something special about these guys. I've seen Darcy Tucker go for a big hit on John LeClair and all LeClair did was stick out his hip before impact, stayed strong on his skates and Tucker was the one who got the worst end of it. It was like Superman being hit by a bullet. Then during a commercial break I see Primeau and LeClair talking. Primeau made LeClair look so small.

Aris Brimanis

Rudy Tacjnar

With all due respects to Vinny, I'll always associate #40 with Claude Boivin.

With all due respects to Vinny, I'll always associate #40 with Claude Boivin.
- 77rams

Which Vinny?

Which Vinny?
- jmatchett383

The Lecavalier version.

The Lecavalier version.
- JAKEw1234

Ah. I was thinking Prospal at first.

#93
sorry Jakob

#93
sorry Jakob
- Marc D

Beating the King like a rented mule

If memory serves me correct, when Justin Williams was a rookie he wore #63 or #64 in the preseason, unless i'm confusing him with Hubacek... I hate getting old

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: By the Numbers,
- bmeltzer

Never been a huge numbers guy, but I do enjoy this:

1. Bernie Parent
2. Mark Howe
3. Doug "(frank)ing" Crossman
4. Barry Ashbee
5. Braydon Coburn
6. Chris Therien
7. Bill Barber
8. Mark Recchi
9. Pelle Eklund
10. Brad McCrimmon
11. Kevin Dineen
12. Tim Kerr
13. Daniel Cacillo
14. Ron Sutter
15. Terry Crisp
16. Bobby Clarke
17. Paul Holmgren
18. Mike Richards
19. Rick MacLeish
20. Dave Poulin
21. Dave Brown
22. Rick Tocchet
23. Ilkka Sinisalo
24. Sami Kapenen
25. Keith Primeau
26. Brian Propp
27. Ron Hextall
28. Claude Giroux
29. Terry Carkner
30 Tommy Soderstrom
31. Pelle Lindbergh
32. Murray Craven
33. Pete Peeters
34. John Vanbiesbrouck
35. Ken Wreggett
36. Darroll Powe
37 Eric Desjardins
38 Frank Bathe
39 Bill Root
40 Claude Boivin
41 Andrej Meszaros
42 Robert Esche
43 Martin Biron
44 Kimmo Timonen
45 Jody Shelley
48 Danny Briere
55 Chris Gratton
66 Yannick Dupre
68 Jaromir Jagr
77 Paul Coffey
87 Donald Brashear
88 Eric Lindros
89 Mike Comrie
93 Jakub Voracek
97 Jeremy Roenick

Great topics today, Bill. Here's my list:

1 Bernie Parent
2 Mark Howe
3 Mike Rathje Tom Bladon
4 Barry Ashbee
5 Braydon Coburn
6 Randy Jones Andre "Moose" Dupont
7 Bill Barber
8 Mark Recchi
9 Bob Kelly
10 Brad McCrimmon
11 Don "Big Bird" Saleski
12 Tim Kerr
13 Claude Lapointe
14 Joe Watson
15 Pat Falloon Rich Sutter
16 Bobby Clarke
17 Rod Brind'Amour
18 Mike Richards
19 Mikael Renberg
20 Dave Poulin
21 Dave Brown
22 Rick Tocchet
23 Ilkka Sinisalo
24 Sami Kapanen
25 Shjon Podein
26 Brian Propp
27 Ron Hextall
28 Claude Giroux
29 Randy Jones Joel Otto
30 Antero Niittymaki
31 Pelle Lindbergh
32 Roman Cechmanek
33 Brian Boucher
34 John Vanbiesbrouck
35 Sergei Bobrovsky
36 Dennis Seidenberg
37 Tim Tookey Eric Desjardins
38 Derek Plante
39 Marty Murray
40 Claude Boivin (to quote Bill, "Vincent Lecavalier will take over as soon as he plays a game")
41 John Stevens Andrej Meszaros
42 Robert Esche
43 Any Elmore Martin Biron
44 Kimmo Timonen
45 Vaclav Prospal
46 Josh Gratton
47 Luca Sbisa
48 Danny Briere
49 Michael Leighton
50 Scott Sandelin*
51 Randy Jones Randy Jones*
52 Todd Fedoruk*
53 Denis Tolpeko
54 Brian Wesenberg*
55 Danny Markov
56 None
57 None
58 Bill Armstrong*
59 None
60 None
61 Mike York**
62 Jiri Latal*
63 None
64 None
65 Nate Guenin*
66 Yanick Dupre*
67 None
68 Jaromir Jagr
69-76 None
77 Paul Coffey
78-86 None
87 Donald Brashear
88 Eric Lindros
89 Mike Comrie*
90 None
91 None
92 None
93 Jakub Voracek
94-96 None
97 Jeremy Roenick
98 None
99 None*

* = (Despite selecting a player,) I do not really have a strong memory associated with this number
** = I have an intense animosity associated with this number, as well as a hankering for nachos and cheese